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Lee Kershner

It's not just about losing manufacturing jobs.

You may not be prepared to accept the dire consequences of globalization upon the economic future of our country.  The combination of big business and big government sold us out  completely in order to access the Chinese and Indian labor and consumer markets.  Unless you are satisfied that the U.S. cannot or even should not maintain its world dominance. 


The Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics predicts these 10 US industries will face the biggest job losses, in terms of number of jobs, from 2008 to 2018. 

1. Department stores: 159,000 jobs, or 10.2% of its workforce.
2. Semiconductor and other electronic component makers: 146,000 jobs, or 33.7% of its workforce.
3. Auto parts manufacturers: 101,000 jobs, or 18.6% of its workforce.
4. US Postal Service: 98,000 jobs, or 13% of its workforce.
5. Printing businesses: 95,000 jobs, or 16% of its workforce.
6. Cut and sew apparel makers: 95,000 jobs, or 57% of its workforce.
7. Newspaper publishers: 81,000 jobs, or 24.8% of its workforce. 
8. Support businesses for mining: 76,000 jobs, or 23.2% of its workforce.
9. Gas stations: 75,000 jobs, or 8.9% of its workforce.
10. Wired telecom businesses: 73,000 jobs, or 11% of its workforce.

Source: US Bureau of Labor Statistics, December 2009


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Paul GriffinPermalink Reply by Paul Griffin on February 3, 2010 at 3:37pm
Your posts are being disjointed and deranged. I mean moreso. See ya.
Allen CogbillPermalink Reply by Allen Cogbill on January 30, 2010 at 12:53pm
It might provide a better perspective if one also listed the possible number of jobs that will be gained over the same time period. I am not maintaining that there would be the same number of jobs created, just noting that there will be jobs created in other industries.

I note that listing jobs lost, which are readily visible, is the inverse of what the government does when it touts the number of jobs it has "created": when such statements are made, the monies that the government stole to create such jobs are taken away from real job creation in private markets. The government cannot create jobs; it can only redirect money from one set of people to another set of people.

Ignoring a possible planetary cataclysm, globalization is here and we need to adapt.
Paul GriffinPermalink Reply by Paul Griffin on January 31, 2010 at 6:23pm
With all due respect, Allen, the government set up a set of rules that ENCOURAGES companies to go overseas and then refuses to live by its own agreements, allowing foreign companies to engage in practices such as dumping, sometimes with the help of their own governments. Many of the governments with which we trade don't play by the rules of the treaties they sign, and don't allow our products to be sold.

Free trade has destroyed millions of jobs in the US, and no, they weren't all "obsolete" jobs (unless you consider electronics obsolete) and these jobs listed here are, for the most part, not necessarily obsolete, either.

I mean come on - Auto parts? RETAIL, for God's sake?
Mike BlessingPermalink Reply by Mike Blessing on February 1, 2010 at 1:33am
When have we actually had a situation resembling "free trade" ?

If you're going to cite NAFTA, GATT and the WTO, you need to take a look at the actual treaties — they're thousands of pages long, where the terms of a true free-trade treaty would fit on half of a side of a single sheet of 8.5x11 letter-sized paper.

In a true free-trade system, I would be able to order an MP-5 subgun and have it delivered directly from H&K to my front door, with the only paperwork involved being the sales slip.

In a true free-trade system, I would be able to take a trunkload of pistols to Mexico and come back with a trunkful of cocaine and marijuana.
Paul GriffinPermalink Reply by Paul Griffin on February 1, 2010 at 7:45am
Oh, yes, that's a beautiful vision. That's EXACTLY what we want.

We have "free trade" inasmuch as we freely buy other nation's goods, but they refuse to allow our goods in, in many cases.

And can someone tell me the value of a Free Trade agreement with Columbia. Besides the obvious product, what POSSIBLE thing could be traded more freely?

Totally impoverished nations have no means to buy our goods.
Mike BlessingPermalink Reply by Mike Blessing on February 2, 2010 at 4:14pm
Oh, yes, that's a beautiful vision. That's EXACTLY what we want.

Works for me.

And what's this "we" garbage you're spewing forth with here? You're clearly in favor of supporting the Establishment plutocracy that comprises the hand up the rears of First Sockpuppets Bush and Obama.

And can someone tell me the value of a Free Trade agreement with Columbia. Besides the obvious product, what POSSIBLE thing could be traded more freely?

If you're referring to Colombia, I take it you've never heard of this stuff called coffee? I don't have much use for it myself, but I know plenty of Americans who love it, and it doesn't seem to grow in a commericially-viable manner this far north. How about bananas, rice, cocoa beans, rice, shrimp?

My source — look it up for yourself.
Paul GriffinPermalink Reply by Paul Griffin on February 3, 2010 at 2:51pm
And what do we sell TO these poverty-stricken people, pray tell? Again, we get nothing out of the deal. It costs a lot of bananas for them to buy a Buick.

And yes, your cocaine/pot comment speaks for itself. Not even all Libertarians are stoners, so you've got near-zero support for your Glorious Vision for Stoner America there, sport.

*PS "WE" means America. Look it up. Word #1 of the US Constitution.
Mike BlessingPermalink Reply by Mike Blessing on February 4, 2010 at 12:31pm
Maybe you haven't noticed, but not everyone in Latin America is poverty-stricken? I see plenty of American-made cars and trucks with Mexican license plates.

As for my "Glorious Vision of Stoner America," I was simply pointing out that NAFTA, GATT and the WTO have nothing to do with free trade, despite the labeling applied to them.

The word "WE" means a group of people who have common interests, a common cause, etc. I know what my causes are, and couldn't less where you are coming from. Mars? Venus? Bugger if I know.
Paul GriffinPermalink Reply by Paul Griffin on February 10, 2010 at 2:48pm
Google Columbia. It ain't one of those nations that have a thriving middle class.

And again, right on target. NAFTA, GATT and WTO are not "free trade" creators, their globalist tools that suck jobs out of America and give us nothing in return. Well, cheap stuff. Until we have no jobs to buy even that stuff. Give it time, they will "work." We're almost there.

And again with your 'couldn't care' crap. You exist. I exist, your neighbors exist. Get used to it. Imposing a vision of lawlessness on others is an imposition too.
Mike BlessingPermalink Reply by Mike Blessing on February 10, 2010 at 3:08pm
Like this?

Try this one instead — you might actually find something related to the country called Colombia. Yeah, that one little letter makes a difference.

And if NAFTA, GATT and the WTO aren't "free trade" as I pointed out before, does it make sense to continue to buy into the rhetoric advertising them as such? Apparently so in your world.

Imposing a vision of lawlessness on others is an imposition too.

That's right — you've exposed me for the mind-control expert that I am — here I am, sticking a wire into the back of everyone's head, imposing my will upon them.

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